New PDF release: 1976 Seminary Transcripts: Hinayana - Mahayana

By Trungpa, Rinpoche Chogyam

"transcript of talks given via Chogyam Trungpa, Rinpoche on the fourth Vajradhatu Seminary, a twelve-week interval of in depth meditation and learn, held at Land O'Lakes, Wisconsin September-November 1976"

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30 Discipline Q: One more thing, what if you have sort of a natural dislike for discipline-you know, a kind of rebellious attitude? How would you deal with that? R: Well, I think that's an American problem rather than a buddhist problem. You are hassled by your parents, hassled by your school, and you have some idea of American democracy, whatever that may be. That is your' past shit, actually. At this point there needs to be some kind of twist, because that shit is already past. Those pressures, which make a lot of demands on you, are full of shit.

Q: I'm curious about the tsiiltim sense of discipline. Does this come only with a sense of egolessness? R: Yes. Q: But until that point where you feel the sense of egolessness, it's not tsiiltim, right? R: Well, not necessarily. You see, when we talk about tsiiltim and egolessness, particularly egolessness, we are talking about possibilities or the wind of egolessness. Q: R: The what? Wind. You know, up in the air, wind. The point is that the practice of any beginning student is not all that perfect.

The legislation in this case is that of the satdharma, the perfect truth. We find that there are certain members of the sangha, ordinary persons, who believe purely in the norm. A person like this believes in the principles of aryasangha, but doesn't understand the principles of satdharma. So the aryasangha is actually comprised of different types of personalities. A person who doesn't understand satdharma will abuse the sangha, trying to make it into a way of gaining personal victoy and power, a way of gaining all sorts of energy.

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